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WHAT’S IT TAKE~~~~To get a Daryl Rogers (RIP) response on TUS?
Jul 12th, 2018 by Kindle

Daryl Rogers died Tuesday in Fresno, California, in his sleep, at age 83.

LYNN HENNING’S ARTICLE:

Former Detroit Lions and Michigan State football coach Darryl Rogers is dead at the age of 83.

Rogers coached at MSU from 1976 to 1979 and then at Arizona State from 1980 to 1984. He then jumped to the NFL to coach the Lions from 1985 to 1988.

Rogers also coached collegiately at San Jose State and Fresno State, his alma mater.

Next time they show the video of Kirk Gibson rounding first base at Dodger Stadium, cranking his right arm back and forth in a moment of sublime baseball glee after Gibson had just won Game 1 of the 1988 World Series with a home run, remember the celebrities and Hall of Famers who made that slice of baseball history possible.

Gibson.

Dennis Eckersley.

Tommy Lasorda.

And yes … Darryl Rogers.

Indirectly, a football coach set it all in motion.

A football coach who died Tuesday in Fresno, California, in his sleep, at age 83.

Rogers coached the Lions from 1985-88 after running the Spartans from 1976-79. He was a coach who, like one of his California brethren, Don (Air) Coryell, believed the fastest path to and end zone was by way of a forward pass.

But, ah, the difference in Rogers, the difference in his work and in his life, the reason he is most remembered today by a football-turned-baseball player, and by a sports writer who covered him nearly nightly during that amazing 1978 season, is the goodness he regularly displayed, as he did on a chilly January day in East Lansing just ahead of that ’78 season.

Gibson was then playing football and only football, as he waded through the winter of his junior year. He was an All-American. He was a 6-foot-3, 220-pound beast who had run for NFL scouts the 40-yard dash in, yes, 4.28 seconds.

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Gibson, who now works as a Tigers analyst on FSD telecasts, recalled the moment Wednesday.

“Darryl walks up to me out of the clear blue,” Gibson remembered, “and says: You want to be a top-five, first-round pick?’”

“And I said, sure. And he says, ‘Go out for baseball.’

“I said: How does that make me a top-five NFL pick and player?

“And he explained.”

Rogers, who had grown up tough in Long Beach, California, was both smart enough and decent enough to appreciate two of life’s realities.

Gibson was of such excellence as an athlete Rogers knew he could play Big Ten baseball, especially after MSU’s baseball coach, Danny Litwhiler, had mentioned Gibson’s work in some earlier American Legion games when Gibson was a teen in Waterford. Gibson could help Litwhiler and, most of all, likely raise a 20-year-old’s market price if he had two sports cooking.

But even more fundamentally, the quality that spurred Rogers to offer baseball as an option was inherent in a man who, quite truthfully, remains one of the best people I’ve known in 40-plus years of covering sports.

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Rogers wasn’t about to get proprietary with Gibson. There was no ownership in the head coach’s mind. There was, rather, an easy sense of stewardship he extended to everyone, every day.

Gibson quoted Rogers, who had decided spring football was going to be well, superfluous, for a player of Gibson’s celestial skills.

“I don’t want to see you in football this spring,” Gibson remembers Rogers saying. “You’ll be ready for football next fall. Play baseball and you’ll increase your leverage.”

Gibson went out for baseball. He hadn’t played seriously for a few years. He soon was slamming pitches beyond the Red Cedar River. The Tigers got him that June in the first round, with the 12th overall pick, all because they and Gibson had done an artful job convincing clubs in front that Gibson was going to play in the NFL.

In fact he was going to be the first overall pick in the ’79 draft, which was confirmed when, after he signed with the Tigers, after he had a first summer of minor-league baseball at Lakeland, Florida, he returned to East Lansing, to his teammates and to his coach, and helped the Spartans win that autumn’s Big Ten co-championship by way of individual plays that yet remain among the most remarkable dynamics some of us ever have seen on a football field.

Rogers had unleashed Gibson when he arrived in East Lansing in April of 1976, a few months after MSU had gotten all but a NCAA probation lift-sentence. Rogers had been airing it out as head coach at San Jose State and MSU’s new athletic director, Joe Kearney, who had been at the University of Washington, knew all about the coach who might bring a new brand of football to the grind-and-groan Big Ten.

Rogers spotted, on the first day of spring drills, a quarterback from Pittsburgh, Eddie Smith, who was buried on the depth chart and had been planning on transferring. Rogers asked all of his quarterbacks to line up and throw the football. He decided in a nanosecond that Smith, then a sophomore, was his new QB.

It was Smith who for the next three seasons hooked up so often with Gibson on pass plays that were straight from Cape Canaveral.

A year later, in 1979, everything was upside down. A new president, Cecil Mackey, who wasn’t from the region and who had no love for the sports sphere, had taken charge in East Lansing. Kearney and Rogers jumped together to become the new AD-football coach tandem at Arizona State.

Six years later the Lions called. Rogers wasn’t interested. That is, until he got word a day later about budget cuts, big ones, coming ASU’s way.

Rogers called Russ Thomas, then the Lions’ general manager.

“Is that job still open?”

“Sure is.”

“I’ll take it.”

It wasn’t a great interlude, for any of the parties. The Lions were the Lions and by autumn 1988. Rogers, who had flippantly said after one loss. “What’s it take to get fired around here?” was gone.

The “what’s it take” remark was, for those who knew Rogers, on a par with another line oft-quoted that earned him the enmity of University of Michigan fans.

It came during a an MSU football banquet when Rogers quoted one of his assistant coaches, saying of Michigan, that the Wolverines were “arrogant asses.”

Rogers meant it jocularly, for a captive MSU audience, and even if he should have known better, it wasn’t said with any venom. It was Rogers being Rogers in a way Gibson remembered Wednesday.

“He had a smart-alecky way of getting his point across,” Gibson said. “There were always these great lines. Let me tell you, Darryl was a special guy. He cared about football, but he cared about you, as well.

“There are special people in your life who you want to make sure are not taken for granted,” Gibson said. “Things happen, and it’s disappointing, because I’ve had such a great experience with Darryl Rogers. If you could see some of the emails flying around from some of my teammates.”

The relationship continued. Each year, The Sparty Party, an annual golf reunion arranged by one of Gibson’s old MSU teammates, Mark Tapling, was a staple at some splashy national resort. Rogers was always there, as he was this spring, with one of his old staffers and one of the ’78 team’s favorite assistant coaches, Bob Baker.

Rogers had been there last autumn at Spartan Stadium, the last time I saw him, the last conversation enjoyed with a man who was indelible, when Gibson was celebrated by the Spartans for being inducted in the College Football Hall of Fame.

The ’78 gang turned out that night. Their kinship assured it. The coach flew in from Fresno, with wife, Marsha.

“After that game,” Gibson said, speaking of the night when MSU played one of its few clunkers from 2017, against Notre Dame, “we said to him, ‘We might go over and have a drink at Kellogg (Center).’

“And then I said, ‘Might you come over and have one with us?’

“So, sure enough,” Gibson recalled, “it’s now 12:30, 1 o’clock, and here comes Darryl.

“We loved it.

“And he loved it, too.”

lynn.henning@detroitnews.com

Twitter @Lynn_Henning

the Fourth Is Not Over Yet.
Jul 5th, 2018 by Ghost Of Biggie

Click on the link below.

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Works from the 5th Ave Beach in Manistee. Thanks to Tom and all those who served including these fellows below.

Lee Greenwood said it best.

Inspirational Story Not Many Knew Until Now
Jun 16th, 2018 by Ghost Of Biggie

https://sports.yahoo.com/emancipation-ethan-ancick-010811368.html

This is the story of a local Manton basketball star not many knew until now. We have to forgive him the decision to attend that other school to the South East.

Spartans Storm the Desert
Jun 15th, 2018 by Trophy

ASU provided AZ Spartans with game ticket allotment at 10:00AM this morning.  I was working and took about 15 minutes before I clicked the link… SOLD OUT.  I’m sure ASU was impressed with the response from the Spartan Nation.   ASU hasn’t sold out a home game in decades, so there will be ample opportunity to buy tix.  MSU sales start 7/23.  ASU’s early bird season ticket discount ends today, so they will make more tix available after they determine season ticket sales are over.   Plus, scalping is legal in AZ and there will be dozens of people selling tix outside the stadium.    Have a great weekend and Father’s Day!!!

Solari has the Spartans 11-1 this Fall
Jun 13th, 2018 by USMC Retired

The loss is not to the Used Car Salesman in Columbus either (he has us winning that game 24-16), but to Glad Glade.

 

My opinion was that the Glade wasn’t all that good last year and the loss of the RB to the pros didn’t strengthen their position in my mind.  They squeezed by the better teams in the Conference, snuck by a very WEAK Pac12 team, and  lost to us.

 

https://www.theonlycolors.com/2018/6/11/17450604/chris-solari-predicts-11-1-season-for-michigan-state

Spartans Storm the Desert – Ticket update from Kevin Vaughn, AZSpartans
Jun 10th, 2018 by Trophy

AZ Spartans – Just had a meeting with the Arizona State University Group Ticketing Department regarding our tickets for the MSU vs ASU game on Sept 8th. Here are the latest details:

— Ticket Deposits will be taken as early as late next week. We’ll be provided a “link” to click and select one of three different ticket pricing locations.

— The three general locations as of now will be section 26/27; section 24/25 or section 310. We may have options to section 28 (which I was previously told) but they are holding that section until they have all season ticket holder deposits in case they need that section. They’ll add that section to our available sections if it becomes available. We’ll be notified when those tickets become available on a first come, first serve basis. I.e… if you are in section 27 and want to upgrade to section 28 that may become available closer to the game. We’ll be notified if/when that happens according to ASU.

— Coach D and MSU Football Team will come out of the tunnel by section 24/25 and be on the sideline below our sections.

— Ticket prices are as follows: Section 26/27 are $84/ea; Section 24/25 are $64/ea and Section 310 is $36/ea.

— Once you place your ticket deposit, you’ll receive a “link” in which you can forward to friends, family, etc and they can use the link to order tickets and sit next to or close by. So, make sure to send your link and have the friend, etc use that link to order their tickets so the software program matches you up.

— The software program allocates seats based on how early you place the order and side by side links. Orders placed the earliest take priority over those placed later. So, once we get the link next week, place your orders to get best available tickets.

— Tickets will be allocated around July 26th. You’ll receive an email to log into your account and then you can print your tickets or send to your cell phone.

Please keep in mind these are GROUP tickets, which are discounted, but are not exact seat locations that you are purchasing. You are buying into a section with our group and then they are allocating your ticket. Single game tickets don’t go on sale until August 8th so we are placing our orders before that happens.

Lastly, there are many ways to purchase tickets for this game. You can decide to place a deposit and get a group ticket with our link. You can purchase a ticket to a suite provided by the Spartan Dawgs Todd Murray. You can purchase from the MSU Athletic Dept who has tickets in section 21-23 for regular price or you can purchase through a reseller like Stub Hub or you can even buy ASU Season Tickets and have tickets to this and other games. So, we are just trying to provide an option to sit together and cheer on the Spartans!

If you have questions, post them and I’ll try to answer. Otherwise, I’ll post the link when received from ASU… hopefully end of next week. With all your support, we’ll have a tremendous Spartans Storm the Desert Weekend!! Have a great weekend and GO GREEN!!

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AZ Spartans – Just had a meeting with the Arizona State University Group Ticketing Department regarding our tickets for the MSU vs ASU game on Sept 8th. Here are the latest details:

— Ticket Deposits will be taken as early as late next week. We’ll be provided a “link” to click and select one of three different ticket pricing locations.

— The three general locations as of now will be section 26/27; section 24/25 or section 310. We may have options to section 28 (which I was previously told) but they are holding that section until they have all season ticket holder deposits in case they need that section. They’ll add that section to our available sections if it becomes available. We’ll be notified when those tickets become available on a first come, first serve basis. I.e… if you are in section 27 and want to upgrade to section 28 that may become available closer to the game. We’ll be notified if/when that happens according to ASU.

— Coach D and MSU Football Team will come out of the tunnel by section 24/25 and be on the sideline below our sections.

— Ticket prices are as follows: Section 26/27 are $84/ea; Section 24/25 are $64/ea and Section 310 is $36/ea.

— Once you place your ticket deposit, you’ll receive a “link” in which you can forward to friends, family, etc and they can use the link to order tickets and sit next to or close by. So, make sure to send your link and have the friend, etc use that link to order their tickets so the software program matches you up.

— The software program allocates seats based on how early you place the order and side by side links. Orders placed the earliest take priority over those placed later. So, once we get the link next week, place your orders to get best available tickets.

— Tickets will be allocated around July 26th. You’ll receive an email to log into your account and then you can print your tickets or send to your cell phone.

Please keep in mind these are GROUP tickets, which are discounted, but are not exact seat locations that you are purchasing. You are buying into a section with our group and then they are allocating your ticket. Single game tickets don’t go on sale until August 8th so we are placing our orders before that happens.

Lastly, there are many ways to purchase tickets for this game. You can decide to place a deposit and get a group ticket with our link. You can purchase a ticket to a suite provided by the Spartan Dawgs Todd Murray. You can purchase from the MSU Athletic Dept who has tickets in section 21-23 for regular price or you can purchase through a reseller like Stub Hub or you can even buy ASU Season Tickets and have tickets to this and other games. So, we are just trying to provide an option to sit together and cheer on the Spartans!

If you have questions, post them and I’ll try to answer. Otherwise, I’ll post the link when received from ASU… hopefully end of next week. With all your support, we’ll have a tremendous Spartans Storm the Desert Weekend!! Have a great weekend and GO GREEN!!

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Spartans Storm the Desert… 9/8/18…. Update
Jun 6th, 2018 by Trophy

Art- Thanks for sending me the link.

AZ Spartans are working with ASU to set up tickets for the game.  We are trying for 3 areas in 3 price ranges, but it will be several weeks before ASU is ready to sell tix.  I will try to notify as soon as they are available.  Planned events so far:

  1. Friday night concert at Wasted Grain, (the home of AZ Spartans), in downtown Scottsdale. A band called Verve Pipe from Grand Rapids, they are friends of one our alumni.  Tix available on EventBrite.  I purchased extra, so let me know if they are sold out.
  2. Party bus from Wasted Grain to ASU stadium and back on Saturday.
  3. AZ Spartans tailgate at ASU, all you can eat/drink, music, games, TV’s, Air-Conditioned tent, Dancing Bears, etc. location to be announced closer to game day.
  4. Hotel rooms blocked for Spartans Swarm the Desert at Marriott Suites in Old Town, rates from $99/night, not sure how many are left.
  5. Let me know if you are interested in playing golf on Friday, I can set up games at Gainey Ranch Golf Club, maybe Friday morning with lunch after.

Call or email anytime, rhurula@gmail.com, 602-689-9120

Trophy

25 days since last TUS Post. Serious Membership EMPTINESS has me saying Jeff Lubeck is wasting his money on us.
May 18th, 2018 by Kindle

 Even in a major sports lag period amid negative news about Nassar etal,  there are positives that have emerged.  The thing that is galling is that no one has seen fit to change the thread for the past 25 days.  I waited…and I think Jeff waited….to see if  the gap would be filled.  It wasn’t.
It’s time to call ourselves out.

Jeff pays for this site and asks noting in return but that we keep the conversation going and keep it civil.

Every year Jeff, the most generous soul I have ever met, sends out a questionnaire asking for input and adds a question or two seeking to determine if he should continue to host the site.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Based on the contributions of late:  My note to Jeff in May of 2018 is simply:  “We are not worthy.  Pull the plug.”

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Brian Lewerke is a sleeper Heisman candidate??—by Joshua Needelman of SI.

“Lewerke will begin his second season as the Spartans’ starting QB in a favorable position to build up Heisman momentum. Not only does Michigan State look set to mount a challenge to Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State in arguably the toughest division in the Power 5 leagues (the Big Ten East), it brings back its top three receivers and four starters on the offensive line from the group that rebounded from a dismal 2016 season to win 10 games last fall. Lewerke’s output as a runner and passer could keep him in the Heisman mix, provided the Spartans make good on their preseason expectations by staying in the playoff hunt.”

In 2017, Lewerke completed 246 of 417 passes for 2,793 yards and 20 touchdowns against 7 interceptions. He also carried the ball 124 times for 559 yards and 5 touchdowns.

Michigan State opens the season at home Aug. 31 against Utah State.

Legendary Figures, Images and Story-lines: America’s Greatest Legacy or Achilles Heel?
Apr 12th, 2018 by Jeffrey Lubeck

Legendary figures, images and story-lines are part of America perhaps like no other country or culture. American in this context means the United States of America.

History may prove that America and its culture was the very best at creating, building, and then dismantling with swift prejudice our legendary figures, images, and story-lines.

Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Apple Pie, Paul Bunyan, Joe Pa, Tiger Woods, Harvey Weinstein, Roger Ailes, O.J. and Michigan State University Athletics are good examples of people, institutions, and objects that have grown to be dominant or ubiquitous in our society.  In short – icons.

In some cases these icons eventually come under heavy attack for a previously hidden flaw in their character or public act that leads to a fall from grace. Sometimes the fall is quick and dramatic.

More often than not the path to and from iconic status is the same :

1.) Great skill and success in some area that America deems worthy or important is associated with our future icon.

2.) Build-up and hype establishes iconic status – some time in mercurial fashion.

3.) A serious flaw or weakness exists within the icon that would otherwise reduce or eliminate the status.

4.) America in general does not know about the flaw and often does not care as long as the situation works for them.

5.) Supporters and handlers of the icon deem it is to America’s benefit to keep the Icon’s flaw or weakness under wraps.

6.) Supporters and handlers continue to look the other way or worse block the revelation; even to the point of completely discrediting a story or person that might undue the iconic status and gravy train.

7.) The flaw is eventually revealed and denied publicly.

8.) The flaw, the cover-up of the flaw, and its implications eventually turn out to be the truth.  The cover-up is almost always more damaging and damning than the flaw.

9.) All hell breaks loose.

10.)  Too, too many scenarios about what occurs next to list here.

And now to our beloved Michigan State University…

MSU is reeling.  It feels as if MSU is careening from one ugly revelation to another.  Nassar, The MSU Medical School Dean, Athletic Department Staff, and Athletes are in the headlines and or in jail.  The University and anyone in an oversight role is getting skewered publicly.  And in the pendulum of life; even people and organizations who are less than savory are using MSU’s fall from grace to advance their agenda almost unimpeded.

I am human and therefore I have flaws.  Given this condition I am not going to judge or throw stones [sic., at] any person or institution from the Pedestal of Perfection.

Also, I am not one to blindly support any person or institution or immediately discredit or dismiss an accuser out of hand.  Also, I am not one to run away or jump ship from someone or institution when challenges appear.

In my opinion and given what is presently known, MSU has messed up big-time on several fronts.  In some instances in astonishing and possibly unprecedented fashion. And with a large GULP… it appears institutional look-the-other-way’s or cover-ups are rearing their ugly heads.  This is humiliating and humbling to me as a graduate and supporter of MSU.

Until now, MSU in the public eye was the darling of the 21st Century – Academics, Athletics, Students, Athletes, Instructors, Administrators, and Coaches.

If you were a Spartan or supporter or fan of MSU – the times were good.  It was a time every major airport or national publication was celebrating and promoting the story Spartan Will. It was a time of catch-phrases such as January-February-Izzo being treated as a fact to the end of time.

Similar to the stories of Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Apple Pie, Paul Bunyan, Joe Pa, Tiger Woods, Harvey Weinstein, Roger Ailes and O.J. – the imagery of 21st Century MSU did not quite match the reality.

 

Masters Day 4 – Who Put’s on The Green Jacket?
Apr 8th, 2018 by Jeffrey Lubeck

Who is going to take the title?

For those of you that want a reference point.  The biggest come-from-behind Masters final day victory is held Jack Burke Jr.  at 8 strokes in 1956.

Trivia: The Marine overcame a general bad attitude to win (with JHL) the TUS Cup in 2012.

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